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The USPD and Wilderness Energy,  Head To Head
Things You Should Know

 
1)   uspd  The kit I installed on my bike, the motor has a whine to it and it increases in pitch as you give
                  it more power.  When your close to the bike it's very noticeable.  From that I have to assume
                  all uspd motors have some kind of a whine to them.

     w-energy   The kit I installed on my test bike was next to being dead silent. I have nowhere near the
                        mileage on this kit as I have on the uspd, so whether it remains that silent as more mileage
                        is put on remains to be seen.

2)  uspd  There is a chain on the motor which could break.  To date I have only heard of one broken
                  chain.

     w-energy    The kit has a hub motor so there is no chain to break.

3)  uspd   The kit has a chain tension plasic arm to take up slack on the chain. The chain will stretch a
                bit as mileage is put on.  This arm is made of plastic and it wears down quite fast.

    w-energy    This kit has no chain therefore no chain tension arm to wear

4)  uspd   The motor does not have smooth acceleration.  I am not sure if this is the fault of the thumb
                 throttle or a combination of the throttle and the high torque of the motor. My guess would be
                 it's a combination of both.  The result is the motor jerks on the spoke adapter which over
                 a period of time may result in broken and loose spokes.   After one season of use I had
                 6 broken spokes on my wheel and 3 others that were loose.  With a conscious effort one
                 can learn to control the acceleration so that it is somewhat smooth.

    w-energy   The throttle is more like a motorcycle throttle and it gives the motor extremely smooth
                       acceleration.   This is probably due to the fact that the motor does not have the same
                       hi torque as the uspd.

5)   uspd   The frame mounted battery locks in place with a key.   I am not sure about the rack mounted
                 battery but I believe it also locks in place.

      w-energy     This kit has a rack mounted battery and it does not lock in place unless you design
                           something yourself. The battery is held in place by velcro straps to the rack.

6)   uspd   This kit for the most part needs someone with a little mechanical knowledge to install it.
    
      w-energy   This kit is extremely easy to install.

7)   uspd   This kit needs the rear rim to have the correct dimensions for the spoke adapter to fit.
                  However even if the rim has the correct dimensions this does not guarantee a fit.  The
                  solution buy a new rear rim with the correct dimensions.  The bike must be 26 or
                  27 inch in size

      w-energy   This kit is manufactured in different wheels sizes so it fits just about any bike.
                         You need 3.75 inches distance between the front forks or hydraulic shocks so that
                         the supplied rim will fit.

8)   uspd    This kit adds 28 lbs to the bike.

      w-energy  This kit with a standard battery adds 34 lbs to the bike and with the extended battery
                        adds 46 lbs to the bike.

9)   uspd   This kit is a rear wheel drive.

      w-energy    This kit is a front wheel drive.

      Note    I have tested both and in my opinion I found no advantage or disadvantage to front or
                  rear wheel drive.

10)   uspd   This kit has very strong torque from a standing stop and strong torque throught out
                   the throttle range.
  
        w-energy   This kit has weak torque from a standing stop but once the bike gets rolling a bit
                           you can feel the torque building.

11)    The uspd has faster acceleration compared to the w-energy

12)    The top end speed for both kits is about the same.

13)    uspd   This kit has no lock out feature for the power.   One could come along and move the battery
                    switch to the on position and press the throttle which would cause the bike to lunge
                    forward.

         w-energy   This kit has a key switch which mounts on the handle bar.  You can turn the key to the
                            off position and then remove the key and one can not acciddently engage the motor.

14)   uspd   This kit with the frame mounted battery which is two 12 a/h battery cells gives a
                      distance of 20 miles on a single charge according to the manufacturer.
                       The rack mounted kit which Currie also sells are two 10 a/h battery cells which give a
                      distance of 20 miles on a single charge according to the manufacturer.

                   If you need an additional battery to give you more mileasge, you can only get this when
                   your able to install the frame and rack mounted battery on your bike.  The cost for the
                   second battery is considerable about  $400 Canadian.  I estimate with the two batteries you
                   would probably get a distance of 40 miles.

        w-energy   This kit with the standard battery three 7 a/h battery cells gives a distance of 20 miles
                           on a single charge according to the manufacturer.

                           This kit with the extended battery three 12 a/h battery cells gives a distance of
                           30 miles on a single charge according to the manufacturer

                           The additional cost for this extended battery is approximately $75 Canadian.

            Keep in mind distance is subject to rider weight, type of terrain and how much or how litttle one
            uses the motor.

15)   uspd    With this kit you get their standard smart battery charger which has a 2 amp output.

           w-energy     With this kit you get their standard smart battery charger which has a 1 amp output

16)     uspd     At this point in time you get a manual with the kit that tells you how to install the kit on
                      your bike.  However they do not have an operators manual with the kit.

          w-energy    With this kit they give you a installation and operators manual combined in one.

          When you purchase your conversion kit from me I also include a tips sheet I have put together.
          It gives you valuable information to get the most from your kit and to help you from making
          mistakes which could be costly down the road.

17)     W-energy have a fuel gauge option you can now purchase which tells you how much charge is
          left in your battery at any given time.  It also tells you how much electricity your pulling from the
          battery at any given time.   This is a great feature if your trying to make your battery last for
          long distance travel.    The cost of this gauge is $79.95 Canadian.

           At this point in time the uspd has no such gauge available that I am aware of.
          The w-energy gauge can not be used on the uspd kit to my knowledge.

18)    Added on Aug 12/03

           uspd    If the bike falls over on the side that has the motor the extent of the damage will
                      most likely be limited to a scratched cover.  One thing I should note is that the last group
                      of brushless motors have a heavy wire cage around the motor which would protect it.

           w-energy    If the bike falls over on the side that has the cable coming out of the hub, the
                             cable may or may not be damaged.  One thing is for sure this cable needs to
                             be protected.

19)    Added on Sept 3/03

           The following piece of information came from a fellow I know who has been involved in the
           electric bike field for some time now.  I have not been able to verify it however I believe it
           to be accurate.

           Electric bikes that have brushless motors run at about 97 percent efficiency
           Electric bikes that have brush motors run at about 73 percent efficiency.


           uspd     Currie is now coming out with a brush motor and external controller which will replace
                       their brushless motor.  This could mean that their new motor will be about 25 percent
                       less efficient.  So where will this loss in efficiency take place.,  I am told in the battery.
                       I am told all things being the equal with the brush motor you can expect about a 25
                       percent decrease in mileage.   That's not good.

         w-energy    Wilderness Energy has told me they are coming out with a brush hub motor.  Not
                              to fear they are keeping their brushless motor to.  If you choose the brush motor
                              they told me one can expect a 25 percent decrease in mileage. However the
                              starting torque will be a bit stronger and they told me the overall durability of
                              the motor will be increased.  Cost will be the same.   I have been getting some feed-
                              back from customers and all agree mileage is rated high on the list.